On Thu, 2004-06-17 at 21:14, Warren Togami wrote: > Steve Brenneis wrote: > > On Thu, 2004-06-17 at 11:43, Alan Cox wrote: > > > >>On Thu, Jun 17, 2004 at 11:23:30AM -0400, Steve Brenneis wrote: > >> > >>>Do you have a link? I know many, many people who will be happy to hear > >>>there is a binary driver for ATI. > >> > >>No I know several people who use the driver and got it from ati.com. Its > >>not considered "news" it exists to my knowledge > > > > > > See my earlier reply. The drivers were posted in May and there is no > > support for anything older than the 8500. No joy. Thanks anyway. > > > > I can't help to think of you as a troll, as you did not even bother to > search Google when asking for a link, and the OPEN SOURCE radeon drivers > work quite well on radeon 9200 and lower. > > Warren Gee thanks, Warren. You are such a ray of sunshine. I googled your name and found that you seem to think everyone is a troll. I have not responded to the issues about my luck with the open source Radeon drivers before since it seemed off-topic for the list and I was going to let it die, but since a couple of you have felt the need to make ad hominem attacks, I can't let this go. I have a dual P-III system with a Radeon 64MB DDR (7200) card. I built it a few years ago and put Red Hat 7.x on it. I believe it had the open source Radeon driver at that time. I later upgraded it to RH 8 and then after adding a larger hard drive I did a fresh install of RH 9. During all that time, I had absolutely no problems with video performance. I have used a number of different multimedia applications and even loaded winex on it to show my kids that Linux could play their games. About two months ago, I loaded FC1 on the system and since then I have noted a number of issues with video performance. Text windows have jumpy and erratic scrolling performance, winex seems to have developed a case of hiccups, mplayer occasionally crashes for no apparent reason, and the whole system randomly hangs, necessitating a console switch to kill the X server. Thus my comment that the FC1 driver was working after a fashion. During the life of that system, I have occasionally visited the ATI website and yes, Warren, I have googled for drivers. Apparently I was limiting my search for the 7200 series alone. I heave read hundreds of discussions about ATI's refusal to support Linux drivers including postings made by ATI themselves. After buying a laptop with a Broadcom wireless card in it, I discovered much of the same history with them. I'm trying real hard here not to get my panties in a bunch since I haven't posted to this list before, but I spent three years of my life convincing the major corporation I work for to switch a very large and widely used application to Linux, so no, Warren, I am not a troll. I was just looking for help and I thought some philosophical discussion of whether or not a distribution might consider adapting to the hardware that is prevalent was in order. I can see that is not the direction the Fedora community wants to take and I am fine with that. To the rest of you who were sincere in your responses, thanks and I apologize for this rant. I think this thread has played out. -- Steve Brenneis <sbrenneis@xxxxxxxxx>
