On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 23:13:13 -0400, Steve Brenneis wrote: > Another point: Linux has made great strides with the hardware vendors. A > few short years ago, a company like nVidia would never have even > considered producing a Linux driver, binary or otherwise. Does it make > sense now to get up in their faces and say, in essence, "you will now do > things to suit us?" Remember, they have little or no incentive to do > anything for Linux. That's incorrect, nVidia have huge incentive to produce drivers for Linux. The large commercial graphics houses demand it - or what, did you think nVidia made Linux drivers because they are fluffy and nice and sweet? This is a classic case of the problems proprietary software can cause. Everything is peaches until you need the software to do something it doesn't currently do, then you're stuck. I say this as somebody who uses the nVidia drivers on FC1 today by the way, but I'm still intending to upgrade. I'll use the open source (sort of, iirc they are obfuscate) drivers until nVidia release an update. Unfortunately there are no good answers to this problem ... so far nobody has come up with a convincing business strategy that lets nVidia open source their drivers, and the kernel developers won't give binary driver developers any breaks. Rock, meet hard place. thanks -mike