On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 11:12:11PM +0000, Matthew Garrett wrote: >> If Fesco is aiming at getting rid of all the pesky packagers maintaining low >> profile packages: You're well on your way. > So, no, that's not the intent and it's realised that this is a problem. > We need to work on making it easier for users to see that there are > available testing updates and give feedback on them. This is clearly > going to take a while, And even if that would be in place (for example by counting non-fas-account bodhi feedback - it isn't counted currently) we would still have the case where a maintainer cannot fix something that is obviously broken without a) pestering others to 'vote for it' or b) claiming that it is a security fix. > and there'd undoubtedly going to be some difficulty in getting updates > for more niche packages through as a result. All I can say is that if your proposal is accepted, that will mean that I can no longer do my job as a packager (of a few low-profile packages). If others can live with only ever updating things in rawhide then that's fine - that's not something I feel I can do and neither can I be bothered to lobby others to +1 my updates (or create 2 or 3 fake fas accounts to push the updates through on my own). > If people have further suggestions for how we can increase the testing > base then that would be awesome, but the status quo really doesn't > seem sustainable. First of all: Make sure a FAS account isn't required to give feedback and second: don't try to punish the 98% of the packagers that are doing the right thing to make sure the 2% screwing up are stopped. -- sven === jabber/xmpp: sven@xxxxxxxxxx -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel