On Saturday 06 March 2010 23:48:23 Kalev Lember wrote: > On 03/07/2010 12:25 AM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote: > >> +1, Michał! People who want the latest and greatest have already updated > >> to F12 months ago anyway, so there is not much use in pushing new > >> versions to F11. > > > > Why? I don't want to update/reinstall all my machines every 6 months. > > And I expect the same amount of latestness an greatestness from F-11 and > > F-12. And I am not alone. (See the discussions in the devel list for the > > last 2 weeks. > > > > When version X of a software is supported in F-12, the same version X > > can be supported most of the time in F-11. And if it can be supported, > > it should be supported. > > I'd personally want to be able to _choose_ if and when I want to get all > the new stuff. If I have time, I upgrade to new Fedora release and > happily deal with all the problems that come up. This is exactly what > new distro releases are for -- people prepare for the upgrade and take > time to do it. > > But what happened now is that a major Desktop Environment version was > dumped in a stable Fedora release, and it annoyed some people (me > included). If the new version had only come with F-13 instead, then I'd > have an option to choose _when_ I want to upgrade from F-12 to F-13 to > deal with the problems that might arise with the new version. But if the > new version is dumped upon me in the middle of a week, I'm left without > a choice. I have to immediately deal with whatever problems arise from > the upgrade. Now think how someone who administers more than one > computer would react to that -- I'm sure they also want to choose when > to get major upgrades so that they could upgrade when they feel they > have enough time for that. Major KDE update was in time of Fedora 9, so it's not an issue today. And this it the first problem - we should not call major, minor, bugfix release because it doesn't mean the same for every each app out in the wild!!! (KDE versioning is X.Y.Z where X is major, Y is minor and Z is bugfix release). Jaroslav > So yes, I'd prefer to upgrade (not reinstall! as you said) once every 6 > months, instead of having to deal with changing expectations every > single day. -- Jaroslav Řezník <jreznik@xxxxxxxxxx> Software Engineer - Base Operating Systems Brno Office: +420 532 294 275 Mobile: +420 731 455 332 Red Hat, Inc. http://cz.redhat.com/ -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
