Am Sonntag, den 07.03.2010, 12:18 +0200 schrieb Debarshi Ray: > > Others may be eager to test their software with 5.3, but can not spend > > the time to make a system update to F12. > > All Koji builds are done using the same packages in the repository. > eg., if Fedora has GCC x.y then GCC x.y is used to built the entire > Fedora tree. Suddenly bumping a GCC version will cause a lot of builds > to fail. The 5.3 example was referring to php! There are different kinds of updates which should be handled differently. An update to some software may render the complete system useless - the case of gcc. Others may have selective effects - the case of php (and might be easily handled by a selective roll back). The KDE update, which got the current discussion rolling, might be an example of the former. Instead of banning release updates completely (the convervative approach) it might be advantageous, to use different strength / different levels of testing (dwell time in testing repo, positive Karma, etc). > > You got the point. Therefore people are using Fedora and expect to get > > newer software versions which may provide additional functions which may > > come in handy, as soon as possible. > > Does 6 months not count as "as soon as possible"? It depends. When e.g. OpenOffice releases a new version, I would be very unhappy to have 6 months to wait. If a new kernel can handle my broadband adapter I would be very unhappy to wait 6 months until I can use it (milage of others will vary, but the same basic logic). > Often "new and shiny" can mean "new bugs". Of course! That's the other side of the coin (to be able to use new functions, test the effects of a release to ones own development, not to have to use an outdated (but very stable) software level as RHEL/CentOS, etc). > That is what makes Rawhide > (or today's F13) what it is. No! Rawhide affects the disto as a whole. Installation procedure may be broken, hardware recognition, incompatible libs. Rawhide is not meant to be stable all the time. A Fedora release is meant to be stable, but sometimes something breaks as an accident, as a side effect of another, partly rival goal (to provide a curent software level). But to be honest, how often such an accident did occur over the last years? You won't need more than one hand to count. And how long did it take to resolve a problem? In most cases you had just to wait a day. Fedora is my day by day working instrument, and I am "happy with Fedora as is"(tm) Peter -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel