Re: Fedora 13 Alpha Go/No-Go Meeting: 2010-03-04 @ 01:00 UTC Recap

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On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 22:17 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> James Laska wrote:
> > To re-emphasize a point Adam made above, users of other desktop
> > environments are strongly encouraged to participate in community test
> > runs during release milestones.  As it stands, we have one test result
> > [1] from the a desktop environment other than GNOME.
> > 
> > While it was explained that the release criteria do not pertain to all
> > desktop environments for Fedora 13, it would really help to have a more
> > complete picture of how the criteria might apply to other desktop
> > environments.  Without the data, it makes deciding whether to extend the
> > release criteria to these environments a difficult decision.
> 
> The problem is that "please test this, but we will ignore the results" is 
> not the way to get people to do testing.

The tests don't solely exist for the purpose of deciding the release
go/no-go. If that were the case, we wouldn't do the Beta and Final tests
on the Alpha release, as we do.

The tests have other purposes: they alert us to breakages we may care
about for future release points, and they allow us to document
non-blocker problems. Although we did not commit to applying the
criteria in full to non-default desktops, as I explained when I asked
for the testing, we would consider extremely serious problems in
alternative desktops ('it doesn't boot') for blocker status, and we can
also document bugs exposed by the testing (as we have for the KDE update
issue). The intention is that it will also be useful simply as a way to
find bugs in desktops that ought to be fixed, regardless of the release
process.
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
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