Re: Harmless KDE feature upgrades - yeah right

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On Thursday 04 March 2010 17:33:20 Orion Poplawski wrote:
> On 03/04/2010 07:18 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> > On 03/04/2010 07:27 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> >> That said, IMHO the best solution is still to have this stuff in the
> >> official updates. But it's true that the kind of issues some users are
> >> having with KDE 4.4 are unfortunate. This particular Akonadi issue
> >> hasn't shown up during testing or it would have been considered a
> >> blocker.
> > 
> > The whole point is that you will invariably find such breakage when
> > pushing updates like this *after* the release and this is precisely why
> > there are huge discussions on this topic and sooner you realize that no
> > matter how careful you are you only increase the risks by doing such
> > updates mid-release the better off we are towards a reasonable level of
> > compromise
> > 
> > Rahul
> 
> Kevin/KDE SIG -
> 
> I would also like you to consider that simply changing the behavior of a
> system, while not technically a bug or regression, can be frustrating to
> a lot of users (I have reports of different looking panels, different
> task bar graphics behavior).  Especially to sysadmins like myself who
> manage multiple users' systems and have to deal with and explain to the
> users all of the changes that happen.  It is much easier for me to say -
> when is a good time to upgrade to Fn? and the user can prepare for
> changes and time it to not coincide with other deadlines, etc.
> 
> And please, just assume like Rahul says that there *will* be
> bugs/regressions that aren't found in testing for major updates like
> this, and take that into consideration.
> 
> I'm sure some (most?) of my frustration needs to be directed with KDE
> upstream and their cavalier attitude towards preserving settings and
> data during updates, but I also really don't want to have to deal with
> this any more than I have to.

That's the problem - it's just postponed to upgrade from update - you can 
choose one hell from 1. break update, 2. break upgrade. None of this should 
happen. 

> (Off to track down changes in XRANDR behavior with 4.4.0 ....)

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