Okay. This has gone on long enough. The signal is gone from the following threads: * FESCo wants to ban direct stable pushes in Bodhi (urgent call forfeedback) * Worthless updates * Refining the update queues/process Accordingly, I'm marking those threads as Hall-Monitored. Please stop posting in them. If you have a concrete suggestion on how to improve Fedora updates, please write it in a wiki page, open a FESCo trac ticket, and they will consider it. ~spot, Hall Monitor -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel