On 03/03/2010 07:03 PM, James Antill wrote: > On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 18:06 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: >> On 03/03/2010 05:10 PM, Seth Vidal wrote: >>> >>> >>> On Wed, 3 Mar 2010, Peter Lemenkov wrote: >>>> And what about tickets, closed with "FIXED UPSTREAM" w/o actually >>>> applying fix to a package? >>>> >>> >>> Those items will be released in the next release of yum or in the next >>> fedora release. If the bug is serious or a security issue I will often >>> backport a patch. >> >> QED: You don't fix your bugs, but prefer confronting users with them and >> force them to dig out your "fixes" to work-around the issues they are >> facing. > > No, we don't fix _all_ bugs immediately, so as to not introduce > unnecessary regressions. Seth doesn't fix bugs even when they are apparent and when there is no risk at all. > This is the engineering part of "software > engineering". And, yes, users can often personally work around their > problems by installing from rawhide/etc. ... without adding risk to > anyone else. Read: You guys are being rude against the community. > Some bug reporters have argued that their bug is more critical than we > think, some do change our minds, that's fine and I'm happy to discuss it > with them. But your desire that we should instantly rebase for all bugs, > immediately, and no matter the risk is something you will have to live > without. I am not talking about "upgrading to a next" release. I am talking about you to fix bugs. If you can't do so, then there's something wrong with your development workflow. > Again, rawhide is => that way. Have fun. Wrong, you to finally fix the bugs your packages is nagging the users of a "so-called stable Fedora" release. In other words: It's you who is contributing to the malfunctions Fedora is suffering from. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel