On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Jesse Keating wrote: >> If you don't like rawhide for that use case, find another operating >> system. > > Such as? We're filling a niche, this is one of our unique selling points, > you want to throw out the baby with the bathwater! > >> I'm tired of waiting for many many hours while we try to compose out the >> 3444 individual updates in F11 stable. > > The fact that it takes hours is really a failure of our mash process. Extras > managed to deal with this in a much more efficient way: they pushed only the > new stuff and then had scripts to clean out the old stuff (and a process to > request manual deletion if old stuff was not being cleaned out for some > reason). How much old stuff was in the repo was mostly irrelevant for the > time a push took. Extras worked also because it had a lot less to deal with. Comparing Extras to what is currently in the build process is like comparing the build time for RHL6.2 to RHEL-5. Too many things have changed to say any one thing is the problem or is the fix. In the end we have a lot more hardware doing builds but a LOT more packages. Package sizes have gone up and we are keeping debuginfo data when it was not as much a factor back then. We are also dealing with deltarpms which we weren't before. However this conversation is not about facts.. its about emotions, discontent, and calls for revolution. -- Stephen J Smoogen. Ah, but a man's reach should exceed his grasp. Or what's a heaven for? -- Robert Browning -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
