Björn Persson wrote: > Such as KDE 4.4, just to pick a recent example. I had to log out and log > in again before I could start Kmail again. That's normal and not considered disruptive. > That can be quite disruptive if I have long-running processes that > shouldn't be interrupted. You should not upgrade anything while those processes are running, especially not the desktop environment you're using. Even bugfix releases of KDE require a session restart to fully work. (This is also not quite the common usecase.) > And since the KDE upgrade I get popups when I log in about something > called Akonadi that doesn't work because something called Nepomuk isn't > running. I have no idea what that is but apparently something broke. It's a mostly harmless warning, but there's an option to set in System Settings to get rid of it: http://userbase.kde.org/Akonadi#Nepomuk_Indexing_Agents_have_been_Disabled Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel