On 02/27/2010 12:43 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2010-02-26 at 10:55 -0500, Paul Wouters wrote: > >> I requested a direct push to stable. Which was denied. I was unhappy that >> we would not stop a DOS attack within weeks (my packages hardly ever get >> any karma feedback despite their obvious use, though I must say that did >> change for dnssec-conf after it blew up). So I objected, and got my way. > > As I said in my other mail, lack of feedback is not necessarily > meaningless. If your update sits there for a week with no -1s, that > gives us a decent idea it doesn't massively break anything: exactly as > this proves. You may not get any +1s for dnssec-conf when it doesn't > break anything, but - as you admit - you *do* get -1s when it breaks > everything. Glad you mention dnssec-conf. 1) It only received votes, because one of releases broke things badly and because Paul F. loudly asked the public to test. 2) Recent dnssec-conf updates all did receive several -1, nevertheless these updates were pushed. 3) dnssec-conf-1.21-8.fc12.noarch does not work for me, it's as broken as its predecessors for me. => This system doesn't work. > So the system does, in fact, work, in so far as it gives us > a usable indication of very bad breakages. IMO, only on occasions the damage already has happened (dnssec-conf). The vast majority of packages gets pushed without any votes. Ralf -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel