On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 09:45:08AM -0400, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 14:20:07 +0100, Luciano Miguel Ferreira Rocha > <strange@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Yes, so have I. I got mixed in the discussion and didn't explain myself > > correctly. The "thing" that gets broken most visibly is the documentation > > and requirements for external packages to build. > > And I think the gist of the rebuttal argument is that for the 2.6 kernels > the documentation is already 'broken' in that if its refering to > kernel-source or > kernel-sourcecode.. The point of Arjan's posts is that kernel module building > shouldn't be using kernel-source rpm at all, it should be using the > files in a directory > like /lib/modules/2.6.6-1.435/build/ to build against. For kernel > module building documentation and build scripts, this rpm package name > change has exposed a bug that was already present. If I'm > understanding Arjan correctly, all references to kernel-source in > regard 2.6 kernel module building is a bug and all instructions should > be fixed so that people aren't told to use kernel-source OR > kernel-sourcecode for module building. Atleast for building kernels > for the running kernel. What people who build external modules > packages need to do now..to do it correctly is a bit less clear..since > they have to build modules for the save kernel version but different > arches. > I still don't understand how thats suppose to work out, but its also > more of a developer/packager issue and has a higher bar of > 'understanding' than simple end-user/sysadmin issues like building > needed modules for the kernel you are running. > > > > There are several references to kernel-source that will end up obsoleted > > and will confuse users. Messages in mailing lists, installation > > documentation, etc. > > there is installation documentation for fedora? > > > > Now, with this out of the way, forgive me for digging a little deeper: the > > change is due to a limitation on rpm, right? Couldn't we just fix rpm? > > Could 'we'? Are you volunteering to help with rpm development? Not for next month and an half, no. Finals, lack of a personal computer (still waiting for an ibook, and some linux related events to prepare. But afterwards there's at least one thing I want to check in rpm. Sorry if it sounded like I was volunteering you guys. (In a way, I was, my apologies.) Regards, Luciano Rocha
