On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Toshio Kuratomi <a.badger@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 04:16:30PM -0600, Mike McGrath wrote: >> On Tue, 2 Feb 2010, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: >> > >> > > Not to reduce the debate to too much of a soundbite, but it almost >> > > seems like attempting to decide whether we want Fedora to be Debian, >> > > or to be something useful for users of it. I'd always pick the latter... >> > > >> > The problem with this sound bite is that Fedora Project and Fedora product >> > get mixed up. Users use a Fedora product. The Fedora Project attracts the >> > contributors who make various Fedora products. You can't continue to be an >> > attractive place for people wanting to experiment with creating different >> > visions that don't necessarily appeal to the target audience if they're >> > always going to be a second class citizen. >> > >> >> These are 3 if's and they're impossible to say for sure right now but over >> time we'll know: >> >> If we don't have a coherent vision for what our products are and who they >> are for.. >> > Let's cut this off right at the top :-) If a vision for what our products > are is a problem why don't we have the people producing the products explain > their vision? I keep saying that vision for products needs to come from the > people producing those products, not from the Board or FESCo. > > I agree with things like Robin's statement of how having a target audience > helps to market a product. What I think is wrong is to have the Fedora Board > define the target audience that then constrains all of the products that > Fedora produces. > > I know we're all sick of car analogies but let's try one on for size. > If Ford mandated that the target audience for the Ford brand should be > soccer moms and anytime a conflict arose the decision that was friendlier to > soccer moms was chosen we'd have a lot of people who weren't satisfied with > the next generation of trucks, muscle cars, or economy cars. > > -Toshio > > -- > devel mailing list > devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > +1 for the last ... 3? .. 4? ... how every many posts from Toshio, each well stated and I agree on the points stated. -AdamM -- http://maxamillion.googlepages.com --------------------------------------------------------- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
