Re: Gnome Icons, Gnome/KDE Menus need improvement

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Dan Williams wrote:
Hi,

This is kind of the point.  GTK+ probably should have better menu
handling, but when you install a lot of packages, those packages are
going to have .desktop files.  And those .desktop files are going to be
in the menus.  Therefore, you're definitely going to have a menu that's
100 items long, simply because you installed all those games.

Could there at least be multi-column view so I don't have to scroll under GNOME?


The goal of the redhat-menus package and of the maintainers of that
package is to make the _default_ install (but NOT the everything
install) be sane and have nice menus.  If you install everything, there
has to be some place to put it, and you cannot expect users to go to the
command line to launch things.  Therefore, they go into the menus
whether we like it or not :(  Which, because some packages install huge
numbers of duplicate functionality programs, means you have cluttered
menus.

That's true... but since duplicate functionality will always be an issue...how about naming things to reflect that. Having one Movie Player, two PDF Viewers and ogle, totem, xine on top of that does not look nice at all. I think the program name *and* the description should be in each and every program to resolve the issue. For Example: Xine Movie Player, Mplayer Movie Player, Ogle Movie Player, Gpdf PDF Viewer, Xpdf PDF Viewer... just like Sound Juicer CD Ripper, GNOME Subtitle Editor, and TVtime Television Viewer already do...


what do you think about this?

Using "More" menus is not really the way to go, the way to go is to have
sane programs that do what you want, and not to have 5 programs that
each do 75% of what you want but all have non-overlapping features too.

Speaking of duplicate functionality... do you think there will ever be a common underlying toolkit for Linux? I'm just hoping some nice day all the apps will integrate into the system and the KDE/GNOME rift isn't helping any.




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