The following 30 packages, with respective FTBFS bugs, have been open since the Fedora 11 time frame, and continue to fail to build. These are the oldest non-building packages in the distribution, everything else (over 8800) managed to build for Fedora 12 or newer already. awn-extras-applets-0.3.2.1-8.fc11.src.rpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=511628 evolution-brutus-1.2.35-2.fc11.src.rpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=511451 geronimo-specs-1.0-2.M2.fc10.src.rpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=511494 gmfsk-0.7-0.6.pre1.fc11.src.rpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=511780 gnome-scan-0.6.2-1.fc11.src.rpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=511591 Io-language-20071010-10.fc11.src.rpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=511617 knm_new-fonts-1.1-5.fc11.src.rpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=555487 libFoundation-1.1.3-11.fc9.src.rpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=511470 ohm-0.1.1-9.39.20091215git.fc11.src.rpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=539200 perl-AnyEvent-XMPP-0.4-1.fc11.src.rpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=511749 perl-Class-InsideOut-1.09-2.fc11.src.rpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=539136 perl-Jemplate-0.23-2.fc11.src.rpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=538984 perl-MooseX-Traits-Attribute-CascadeClear-0.03-2.fc11.src.rpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=511570 perl-RRD-Simple-1.43-3.fc9.src.rpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=464964 perl-SVN-Mirror-0.75-2.fc11.src.rpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=511770 perl-SVN-Simple-0.27-7.fc11.src.rpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=511729 prctl-1.4-5.2.1.src.rpm (last built July 12, 2006, ExclusiveArch ia64) python-openhpi-1.1-3.fc11.src.rpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=511675 qtiplot-0.9-11.fc11.src.rpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=511688 recordmydesktop-0.3.8.1-1.fc11.src.rpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=538931 skychart-3.0.1.5-6.20081026svn.fc11.src.rpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=539202 smarteiffel-2.3-2.fc9.src.rpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=511362 synce-kde-0.9.1-4.fc11.src.rpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=539195 unifdef-1.171-8.fc11.src.rpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=511553 widelands-0-0.13.Build13.fc11.src.rpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=511430 xpilot-ng-4.7.2-16.fc11.src.rpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=511717 xqilla10-1.0.2-6.fc11.src.rpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=511599 xqilla-2.1.3-0.6.fc11.src.rpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=511425 If these are removed, the whole list of RPMs to then drop looks like: ------------------------ Removing awn-extras-applets removes these: awn-extras-applets-devel-0:0.3.2.1-8.fc11.x86_64 awn-extras-applets-devel-0:0.3.2.1-8.fc11.i586 ------------------------ Removing evolution-brutus removes these: evolution-brutus-devel-0:1.2.35-2.fc11.i586 evolution-brutus-devel-0:1.2.35-2.fc11.x86_64 ------------------------ Removing geronimo-specs removes these: geronimo-specs-compat-0:1.0-2.M2.fc10.x86_64 ------------------------ Removing gmfsk removes these: ------------------------ Removing gnome-scan removes these: ------------------------ Removing Io-language removes these: Io-language-devel-0:20071010-10.fc11.i586 Io-language-graphics-and-sound-0:20071010-10.fc11.x86_64 Io-language-postgresql-0:20071010-10.fc11.x86_64 Io-language-extras-0:20071010-10.fc11.x86_64 Io-language-mysql-0:20071010-10.fc11.x86_64 Io-language-devel-0:20071010-10.fc11.x86_64 ------------------------ Removing knm_new-fonts removes these: ------------------------ Removing libFoundation removes these: libFoundation-devel-0:1.1.3-11.fc9.i386 libFoundation-devel-0:1.1.3-11.fc9.x86_64 ------------------------ Removing ohm removes these: ohm-devel-0:0.1.1-9.39.20091215git.fc11.i586 ------------------------ Removing perl-AnyEvent-XMPP removes these: ------------------------ Removing perl-Class-InsideOut removes these: ------------------------ Removing perl-Jemplate removes these: ------------------------ Removing perl-MooseX-Traits-Attribute-CascadeClear removes these: ------------------------ Removing perl-RRD-Simple removes these: ------------------------ Removing perl-SVN-Mirror removes these: ------------------------ Removing perl-SVN-Simple removes these: ------------------------ Removing prctl removes these: ------------------------ Removing python-openhpi removes these: ------------------------ Removing qtiplot removes these: ------------------------ Removing recordmydesktop removes these: qt-recordmydesktop-0:0.3.8-2.fc12.noarch gtk-recordmydesktop-0:0.3.8-2.fc12.noarch ------------------------ Removing skychart removes these: ------------------------ Removing smarteiffel removes these: smarteiffel-doc-0:2.3-2.fc9.x86_64 ------------------------ Removing synce-kde removes these: synce-kde-devel-0:0.9.1-4.fc11.i586 synce-kde-devel-0:0.9.1-4.fc11.x86_64 ------------------------ Removing unifdef removes these: ------------------------ Removing widelands removes these: ------------------------ Removing xpilot-ng removes these: ------------------------ Removing xqilla10 removes these: xqilla10-devel-0:1.0.2-6.fc11.x86_64 xqilla10-devel-0:1.0.2-6.fc11.i586 ------------------------ Removing xqilla removes these: dbxml-utils-0:2.4.16-0.5.fc12.x86_64 dbxml-python-0:2.4.16-0.5.fc12.x86_64 dbxml-devel-0:2.4.16-0.5.fc12.x86_64 dbxml-0:2.4.16-0.5.fc12.x86_64 xqilla-devel-0:2.1.3-0.6.fc11.x86_64 xqilla-devel-0:2.1.3-0.6.fc11.i586 dbxml-devel-0:2.4.16-0.5.fc12.i686 qpidd-xml-0:0.5.819819-1.fc13.x86_64 Of these, xqilla looks the most interesting, being used by the growing-popular qpid work. I'd like to propose the above list be dropped from the distribution, prior to Fedora 13 Alpha freeze, unless the package is made to build in rawhide before that. Thanks, Matt -- Matt Domsch Technology Strategist, Dell Office of the CTO linux.dell.com & www.dell.com/linux -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel