On Tue, 2009-12-08 at 10:52 +0100, Andy Green wrote: > On 12/07/09 23:55, Somebody in the thread at some point said: > > Hi - > > > these pages, not nice-to-haves. You must be able to commit to the idea > > that, if any criterion on the page is not met, we would slip the release in > > question. > > I think it's great you guys are looking to increase > Quality-with-a-capital-Q. > > ''9 There must be no SELinux 'AVC: denied' messages or abrt crash > notifications on initial boot and subsequent login'' > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_13_Final_Release_Criteria > > It might be wise to specify on what particular set of test machines or > platforms you want to see not abrt stuff from. Because current F12 > kernels kill a 4-core box here and iwlagn gives abrt warnings on this > laptop, but it's still otherwise fine as a released kernel. > > It's not realistic to hold a release until the kernel never crashes on > any platform. Luckily, we have a tailor-made get-out clause for that one (actually I pointed out the same problem as you, and wrote it, shortly before FUDCon): https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Blocker_Bug_FAQ#What_about_hardware_and_local_configuration_dependent_issues.3F I'll turn that criterion into a 'in most cases' one with a link to that FAQ entry, as we did for the other similar criteria. Thanks. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list