> Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > On 11/28/2009 02:32 AM, Debayan Banerjee wrote: > >> 2009/11/28 Rahul Sundaram > >> > >>> Why? It's just shows your personal preference for a editor. Emacs is > >>> certainly not needed for software development. > >> > >> Well one does need an editor for development. Assuming vim and emacs > >> have roughly equal user bases, chosing emacs over vim for the > >> distribution shows Fedora packagers' personal preference too. I guess > >> both vim and emacs should be available. > > > > First of all, I don't think we have enough data to determine which > > editor is being used by developers. How did you come up with the roughly > > 50/50 estimate? I am sure we need a editor for development but I might > > be using Eclipse or even Anjuta? IMO, it can be listed as a optional > > package in the group and not more than that. > > Um... > > emacs is more than just an editor. Advanced users of emacs use emacs as a > shell from which they > > - edit the source > - invoke the compile/make process from WITHIN emacs > - run the application from WITHIN emacs > - if the application crashes, then the debugger comes up WITHIN emacs, > and allows them to debug the application, look at the source code, > etc. All from within emacs. > > While I readily admit that most emacs users probably don't use these > advanced features of emacs, I would argue that emacs DOES belong in the > development group. Those that leave it out of that group are simply > unaware of what emcas can and does do... I completely agree with you ONLY if you agree that kdevelop, qt-creator, anjuta, eclipse, netbeans, monodevelop and etc. should be added to the group because all of them can do what you have described. It will be a funny group - usable for everyone ??? I doubt it. Alex > > All the best, > > -Greg > -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list