Jeff et al are 100% correct - why this is even debated is unfathomable to me. Surely it is completely obvious that the default should be off. (as it was and will be in f13+). Why have we not got a revert fix to turn this back off in updates-testing ? Please fix it now - then discuss how to improve the desktop experiance for Aunt tilly. But first put the security back to what it was, should be and presumably will be again anyway. If people need it, add a button to the PK gui config tool. (WHat is it called anyway?) - I cant seem to find a [gui] config tool of any kind - maybe that should be built too before futzing with insecurity policies? gene/ -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list