I'm of the considered opinion that defining "Core" and "Extras" was a bad idea. It makes the problem too binary. We should perhaps consider the issue as a tree and define several trees, each path being a possible install. Currently Core and Extras have become emotionally loaded political words and, as such, have lost any rational meaning. We need, instead, to define a set of target endpoints (e.g. administrative assistant, programmer, grandmother, email-browser, luser, etc). Then someone becomes the designated "maintainer" for the endpoint and their word is law. The maintainers can mark the packages with their badge and the build system can make a "grandmother core". This can be done downstream. The maintainers all report to a god-like figure (i'm unavailable) similiar in role to a Linus. So the "newbie" maintainer can have tuxracer. The "sysadmin" maintainer can have the registry. The "free" maintainer can have religion. And we all can have peace. kumbuya. Tim Daly