On 10/14/2009 08:23 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: > And that's a people problem more than a process problem. If nobody > tests it in updates-testing, then how is the maintainer to know that it > is problematic? Certainly not solvable with even more repos for testing > content... 3 people give positive feedback and the update is automatically pushed from updates-testing to updates despite atleast one feedback to the contrary at https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F11/FEDORA-2009-9911?_csrf_token=b77b748e49c5311eb85031331cb2f6474028d615 The UI changes certainly would be visible without any user feedback. The buttons getting removed from the toolbar as well as smart folders were immediately visible within minutes. Anyone with significant amount of email would probably run into the indexing issue soon as well. Note that the update indicates it is a security issue but doesnt explain what the security fix is nor does it indicate what other major changes are there. No notes has been entered to assist the testers. I don't think the onus can be placed entirely on potential testers to provide feedback within a week. That is just finger pointing and doesn't help address such problems or even mitigate it. Rahul -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list