2009/10/13, Mat Booth <fedora@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > 2009/10/12 Toshio Kuratomi <a.badger@xxxxxxxxx>: >> I've been a comaintainer of the python-setuptools package for a long time >> and recently became the owner when icon relinquished it. It is currently >> a >> tumultuous time for distributing python modules with a new and active >> maintainer for distutils inside of the python stdlib and a fork of >> setuptools being worked on. >> >> That fork is named distribute and there are two branches of development on >> it. The 0.7 branch aims to implement API, metadata, and other features >> that >> will make packaging python modules for upstream building and distribution >> easier while being more concerned with the effects this has on >> Linux packagers. The 0.6 branch intends to be compatible with the current >> seutptools package but to fix bugs and introduce features that are >> backwards >> compatible and oft requested. This branch is being actively maintained by >> a >> core group of five committers including the new distutils maintainer. By >> contrast, setuptools is maintained by a single maintainer who often has >> little time to work on it. >> >> When installed, the 0.6 branch takes over the setuptools and pkg_resources >> python modules. The reasoning is that distribute-0.6 provides the same >> API >> as setuptools and is meant to replace it. If the module was installed >> differently, consuming code (all the setup.py modules in any setuptools >> using package as well as code that relies on setuptools features at >> runtime) >> would all need to change their import statements to use the new names >> explicitly. This choice is being made upstream by the distribute project. >> >> Upstream, the python community has viewed the fork favorably but since >> it's >> not part of python proper, the only one with say in the matter is the >> setuptools author. He has not been willing to abandon the setuptools >> module >> but at the same time hasn't gained any more free time to work on >> setuptools. >> >> Several other Linux distributions (gentoo and arch) have started shipping >> distribute-0.6 as the source of their setuptools package. I am thinking >> of >> doing the same for rawhide and pushing the change to older Fedora releases >> if bugs are reported that are fixed in distribute but not in seutptools as >> having a responsive upstream that cares about distribution packaging >> issues >> is a great plus for us. I raised this plan on fedora-python-devel and >> received one positive comment and no negative feedback so I'm just >> mentioning it here so a broader audience can ask any questions or raise >> any >> issues before putting this into effect. >> >> -Toshio >> > > I was unaware of all this. Is there a reason why the setuptools author > will not grant commit rights to others? Going solely on your email it > seems like a fork would be unnecessary if he was willing to share the > workload... > > > -- > Mat Booth > > A: Because it destroys the order of the conversation. > Q: Why shouldn't you do it? > A: Posting your reply above the original message. > Q: What is top-posting? > > -- > fedora-devel-list mailing list > fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list > -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
