On Thursday 06 August 2009 01:59:02 Bastien Nocera wrote: > On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 00:56 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > On Wed, 2009-08-05 at 15:15 -0700, John Poelstra wrote: > > > Hi FESCo, > > > > > > After requesting status updates, including direct email to the feature > > > owners, the following feature pages do not have a current status or > > > their ability to tested during the Alpha is unclear based on the lack > > > of information provided or percentage of completion. > > > > <snip> > > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Gnome2.28 > > > > <snip> > > > > Feature will obviously be done on time. The feature process doesn't seem > > so forgiving about things happening upstream rather than downstream... > > > > > In accordance with our recorded process about providing status, I am > > > proposing that they reviewed and dropped from the Fedora 12 feature > > > list at Friday's FESCo meeting. > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Policy/Dropping > > > > I'll make sure one of the Desktop-y guys updates this (presumably > > Matthias). > > I actually looked at this, and the feature process just isn't good > enough for this. We can't really say we're at 100% for GNOME 2.28 when > it hasn't been released, now can we? It's same for us - KDE SIG. Percentage completion is not the only one criterion for completeness, if we have everything prepared, we have betas/RC already imported and we're just waiting for final release (and as KDE has time based releases we know we can do it for Fedora release). And same for artwork - it's part of feauture but we have to wait for design team etc... The criteria should be - is it 100% ready? If not and it's waiting for upstream release (probably few more exceptions can be found) - is it possible to deliver this feauture 100% ready in time of release? Yes, we have schedule. Then OK. Jaroslav > > So what's expected of such features when the feature process seems > inappropriate? > > Cheers -- Jaroslav Řezník <jreznik@xxxxxxxxxx> Associate Software Engineer - Base Operating Systems Brno Office: +420 532 294 275 Mobile: +420 731 455 332 Red Hat, Inc. http://cz.redhat.com/ -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list