Re: [ANNOUNCE] New Mixer Handling in PA 0.9.16/F12

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On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Adam Williamson <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Wed, 2009-07-29 at 12:42 -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote:

> > Removing PA is far too often jumped on as the 'obvious' fix for
> > resolving any kind of audio problem whatsoever. Even if it had nothing
> > to do with PA in the first place.
>
> And?  Random helpful person quickly becomes ignored person, if the
> advice fails to work.
>
> Problem is...  removing or disabling PA often -does- solve a problem.

There's two problems. One, it's often not the _right_ fix - there are
cases where PA's interaction with ALSA reveals bugs in ALSA that
otherwise stay hidden. So disabling PA 'fixes the bug', but in reality
is just sweeping it under the carpet.

Two, even when the bug is in PA, if everyone just goes around disabling
PA, how are they going to get fixed? Telepathy?


How long do we expect people to tolerate these bugs before they move on?


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