Hi, I have a few questions for the folks involved with the Critical Path Packages proposal, as I'm still confused about the implementation details: 1. How will the policy be enforced? Will Bodhi withhold submitted updates for packages in the depsolving hull of @critical-path until they get approval from QA and/or rel-eng, like it currently does for security updates until security team approval? Assuming the answer to 1. is "Yes": 2. Will critical-path-gnome also get the same enforcement? 3. Will critical-path-kde also get the same enforcement? 4. Will critical-path-* for spins.fp.o spins also get the same enforcement? If the answer to any of the above (1. to 4.) is "No", what kind of enforcement will there be? When we discussed critical-path-kde today at KDE SIG, we were very much confused about what exactly the practical implications will be. I think it won't be of much use to define critical path packages if that definition doesn't lead to some actual enforcement. What we basically agreed on in KDE SIG (see also our meeting log [1]) was: * The KDE spin being one of the primary spins, critical-path-kde should get the same kind of enforcement as critical-path-gnome. (We have no official opinion about stuff like critical-path-xfce as that's out of the scope of our SIG.) * It doesn't make much sense for us to define critical path packages if it won't have any actual practical implications. (We already know what's critical to what extent, so a purely-informative critical-path-kde won't be of much use to us.) But we need the clarification I requested above to make any further decisions. Another open question is who is going to QA critical-path-kde, as we still don't have a dedicated tester in KDE SIG. Anybody volunteering to be a tester for KDE SIG is requested to talk to us on the #fedora-kde IRC chan and/or the fedora-kde mailing list. Being a tester has a much lower barrier to entry than most other forms of contribution, you just need some HD space to install test systems to (ideally, you'd have Rawhide, Fn and Fn-1 on at least one machine each, but even just testing one release is helpful) and some spare time. No programming, drawing, technical writing etc. skills required. I will post a call for help to the fedora-test-list as well. (Note that we do have a KDE SIG member in rel-eng (rdieter), so that part is covered.) Kevin Kofler [1] http://urlx.eu/_Mzk4MQ -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list