> On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Peter Robinson<pbrobinson@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> Focus on rawhide will mean the next release will see the improvements :) >>> >>> That means, that the next release will be untested, as usual. So why >>> create another useless initiative? >> >> Huh? your on the devel list and you don't use rawhide? Maybe I should >> introduce you to the fedora-test list..... >> >>> Please, keep in mind, that almost nodoby using Rawhide == nobody will >>> participate except few paid Red Hat developers == useless initiative. >>> >>> I repeat - this initiative should be based only (exclusively) on >>> current releases. >> >> What a load of crap! I use rawhide as do hundreds of other testers. I >> don't use it on my work laptop until feature freeze but I do use it on >> my home laptop, netbook, a number of VMs and servers and I know LOTs >> of other people do...... >> >> Given that the release CD/DVD images/isos don't get updated and until >> they update there's no improvement what's the point? > > Let's try not to let doomsayers drag down the level of debate here. > The other Peter made a reasonable point that we can address without > calling it a load of crap probably. We have a thread here that should > be a light in the darkness. A way for us all to make something we > love even better. Let's try to keep it positive. Apologies my point was that developers are by definition users too. They may be using vim/emacs to grind code but they still browse, email, IM etc like every other desktop usser... Peter -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list