On Sun, 2009-06-21 at 11:40 -0400, TK009 wrote: > As to the bug itself, I can not and will not speak for why it bothers > the OP. To answer your question though, it bothers me because I don't > want packages on my machine I don't need. As it is my machine that is > reason enough. Size is irrelevant. It's important to note that this is not a reasonable expectation. Think about what it means when you use a distribution which implements dependencies, and a dependency-resolving package manager like yum. What you are saying is 'I would like to trade the bit-by-bit control of what is installed on my computer for the convenience of letting someone else worry about it'. Simply by the act of using Fedora you essentially affirm that you actually _don't_ want to have permanent bit-by-bit control of this nature. If you really want that, you should either run Slackware, LFS, or run Fedora but install everything from source or with rpm -Uvh (--nodeps when appropriate), and figure out dependencies yourself. As long as you cede the control of the decision of what software really 'requires' other software to your distribution, you should recognize that you can't then use "I should have that control" as an argument when talking about distribution dependencies. It's fine to suggest that such-and-such a dependency shouldn't really be there, but it's not fine to justify this by saying "I should have control over what gets installed", because the whole point of dependencies is to save you the pain of worrying about that. Remember that ultimately Fedora _does_ grant you access to that level of control, should you choose to use it: rpm -e --nodeps is available and does what it says on the tin. The trade-off is you get the responsibility along with the power. :) -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
