On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:25 AM, Ray Van Dolson<rayvd@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hmm, I just always figured I was supposed to add myself to the audio > group. So these files are supposed to be owned by my local user > account when I log in eh? No... you should be added to the acl list associated to the device if you are the physical console user as per the authorization policy managed by PolicyKit. This it how it works from at least F10 onward. Mucking around with file ownership directly is "old think." The system scripts associated with pam use to do that on user login and logout...but has been replaced with the more flexible solution involving acls that PolicyKit based hardware access authorization makes use of. for example on the F10 system I'm on right now: ls -la /dev/snd/seq crw-rw----+ 1 root root 116, 3 2009-06-17 07:07 /dev/snd/seq getfacl /dev/dsp # file: dev/snd/seq # owner: root # group: root user::rw- user:myuser:rw- group::rw- mask::rw- other::--- I do not own the file in the traditional Unix permissions sense. But I am listed in the acl list with read write access. If your user is not in the acl list, something misfired in the area of the PolicyKit based authorization handling. -jef -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list