On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Casey Dahlin<cdahlin@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Maybe we should just make the command line more friendly so users don't mind reaching for it. I vote we add clippy. I'm not saying that necessarily needs to be friendlier to use but it may need to be more discoverable as to when it is expected to be used. What I am saying is, there maybe a gap in the reality and assumed expectation on where and when self-installing novice administrators should be diving into the commandline. Nothing in how our default live CD based install experience is put together points to the commandline as a tool for doing infrequent oddball tasks not explicitly covered in by the task specific gui tools in the system menu. Is the expectation that configuring sudo for their user or the wheel group is a best practice for these sort of infrequent tasks? Do we have system interactions designed in such a way that encourages commandline usage best practices? Lacking any system interaction that points to running tasks in a terminal under sudo, trying to login to gdm as root to gain enough privileges to do file re-permissioning or editting system wide config files seems like an obvious thing novice admins would try doing and be frustrated by when that didn't work. -jef -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
