>> The way it is done right now, you have a system that might give too >> few permissions to some users. If that causes a problem, you'll notice >> it, and you can correct it in a very simple way (uncomment one line >> and add a user to a group). >> >> However, if we change the default, you have a system that may be >> giving too much permissions to some users depending on your taste. And >> the worse part is that you (as an admin) might not even know it ! > > Bikeshed! > > Must be some weird stuff smoking admin who simply adds someone to the > wheel group not knowing what that group was for! > > The purpose of the wheel group has always been to be used for more > privileged users. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheel_%28Unix_term%29 > http://catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/W/wheel.html Did I say the contrary ? I don't think so, but being a non-native english speaker, I might have said something I didn't want to :) I didn't say the wheel group was a nonsense or a problem. I was responding to Richard who wanted the line to be uncommented (harmless per se) AND the first user to be added to the wheel group by default. Having the admin's user in the wheel group to be able to use sudo for administrative tasks is a great idea. I just don't think it should be added by default, without an explicit consent of the admin. For example, a « add to the wheel group » checkbox in system-config-users and firstboot could be great. Not sure it would be a good idea to have it checked and hidden by default. Regards, ---------- Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list