On Thu, 2009-06-04 at 14:16 +0200, Till Maas wrote: > > 3. Did you encounter any obstacles preventing participation in Fedora > > test Days? How might they have been avoided? Did you discover any > > workaround? > > The live iso images failed to be converted to live usb media on F10 with a > strange looking boot menu. It could have beend avoided with testing this > before starting the test day. This sounds like the somewhat-infamous problem with f10's USB creator not working for F11 images. Later in the F11 cycle, we did have that issue neatly identified and pinned down, and we started adding a box out to test days explaining it. See the nouveau page, for e.g.: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2009-03-26_Nouveau#Live_Image note the blue box. The explanation could have been a bit more descriptive and emphatic, though, I suppose. > > 4. Were you able to locate and download installation media for testing? > > Did it function as expected? > > Yes. No, see 3. Also I would have expected testing instructions on the live > media to perform the tests without the need to setup an internet connection on > the testing machine. That's a good point - in some situations it's hard to get an internet connection on a live image. So we should try as hard as we can to include all necessary material on the image itself. > Also some bug report info gathering scripts would have > been nice, that e.g. collect all the data required by the packages maintainers > for a bug report in some file on the usb medium. E.g. the Xorg people wanted a > lot of information that I did not have anymore after I rebooted to my stable > F10 system and reported the bug. Also when the test crashes the Xserver, it is > very annoying to get to the log files, because they are deleted after a > reboot. This one's a bit tricky - on the one hand it'd be nice, on the other it'd be a substantial development effort for each test day and they already take quite a lot of effort to organize. Perhaps, however, we could come up with a general-purpose script which could be used for X test days, as the procedures tend to be very similar for different drivers and different releases. We'll certainly look into that for the X test days for F12. Thanks for your feedback! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
