-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I think it is simple BAD to close bugreports with "upstream"! For me as "enduser" of fedora i have one bugzilla and i really like to help with bugreports, try things if maintainer needs better explains what happens. But i have no time and no energy to register on the bugzilla of every piece of software i have installed and i can not look at bugzilla from rsync, kde, amarok..... the whole time. Should the enduser try patches and svn-versions? NO he is user and that was it If someone maintains a package he can test this much better and understands many things the normal user never can and want to konw I know the maintainer can't too for all BUT he get's only bugs for packages which he maintains, he konws (or should know) the software he maintains and normally i think he/she have a watch at upstream-bugzilla and knows MUCH more about the upstream project as the most users So i think the maintainer should play as "relay", taking fedora-bugreports and in many cases report them with much more knowing about the software upstream. If you want that the enduser report bugs upstream you get no repsonse in many cases because the user will say "WTF i wanted to help and you want to say me exactly how i have to help" and after this happens trhee times he is frustrated and will never ever report bugs As poweruser you could use many applications and find mny small bugs in all of them - If you try to handle all of that stuff in the upstream-project and have a fulltimejob and a family you would egt a problem - reporting bugs on fedora-bz or lost your life and deal with all upstream-projects you know Forget it - I think this is maintainers work or you will lost respnses time after time -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkooFkEACgkQhmBjz394AnlLzgCglDQ465W4reprEmCbmoiYgw48 X1MAoJj3mdTmlo+SCD+kC/myICY3V+SP =b+9R -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list