Kevin Kofler (kevin.kofler@xxxxxxxxx) said: > > You could say that about many countries. In any case, even if 1/10 of one > > percent of those people are viable users... that still dwarfs the affected > > packager base by many orders of magnitude. > > But not the affected user base if you remove useful apps like geography > learning apps because they show Taiwan as a country complete with flag. > (And yes, at least one such app exists.) Well, then, if nothing else, you're giving lie to the idea that including the flags is a 'neutral' proposition, if your reasoning is that you want to include it specifically to recognize a country. > > Given that related operating systems with *ONLY* these changes are > > allowed, it's a fair assumption to make. > > But what about the many distros which do not do these changes? Kubuntu ships > the Taiwanese flag, see: > http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/all/kdebase-runtime-data-common/filelist > > Yet they even have a .org.cn site: http://www.kubuntu.org.cn/ which appears > to be hosted inside mainland China. And other distributions ship patented code that we do not, or trademarked images that we do not... that doesn't generally change Fedora's stance on such items. > > Proliferation of spins and maintenance for specific geographies is > > a waste of space and effort, if it can be avoided. That's why we > > have languages included on the Desktop spin, instead of 15 different > > localized ones. > > That's how it works for GNOME, but KDE *needs* localized spins anyway as > there's no way to fit all the huge kde-l10n-* packages on a CD. The KDE > spin does *NOT* include any translations. Perhaps such packages should be re-engineered so they aren't wasting space by including lots of translations for programs that may not be installed if you just want the base translations. :) Even so, where we can, we don't want anyone who tries to do a localized spin to have to worry about forking packages or doing other machinations. (Yes, I'm still not thrilled about BRoffice.) Bill -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list