On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 12:52 -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > it's not very useful if the various upstream maintainers say that they > won't accept it no matter what... at that point... yes people stop > working on it. I haven't seen anywhere where that's been said. On the kernel/drm side of things, the LKML discussion resulted in some questions about the large amount of proprietary code the changes seemed to depend on, but no definitive Yes or No was reached: Greg decided himself to change approach and try to come up with a basic 2D-only driver which would not depend on any proprietary code, then propose whatever kernel elements would be needed for that instead. AFAIK he is still working on that. To my knowledge there hasn't been any kind of proposal of any Poulsbo-related code to X.org. (and since Greg is working off his own bat on this - obviously not representing Intel, Canonical or Dell, or even Novell - there's been a sum total of zero attempts to upstream any Poulsbo-related code from anyone who's being paid by anyone to work on it...) -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list