On 04/30/2009 07:48 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: <snip> .... </snip> > Of course, I don't know that the proposed solution does this, since, > a week after it was proposed, a week after we've cut our last milestone > release, and less than two weeks before we cut the hopefully-to-be-shipped > release candidate, this proposed solution *has yet to land in any form > at all*. Given the stage of the schedule now, I find it pretty preposterous > that we're still considering changing things Agreed. With Empathy we noticed things early in the release cycle and thus could revert those changes in time and thus reefer those wanting to use Empathy to install it manually. With PAVC things got notice to late in the release cycle and thus those that need any functionality that PAVC does not provide should be refereed to install the old application manually and ask/or participate early in the release cycle to prevent these kind of situation from happening again. I also think it should be considered a good working rule not to replace application with a another application until that application provides equal or better functionality than the previous one. Just my 2cents. JBG -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list