Re: The Great Pulseaudio Mixer Debate: a modest (productive) proposal

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On Sun, 26.04.09 10:39, Adam Williamson (awilliam@xxxxxxxxxx) wrote:

> 
> On Sun, 2009-04-26 at 19:29 +0200, Rémy Maucherat wrote:
> > On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 6:28 PM, David Woodhouse <dwmw2@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > I'm not sure about 'yesterday', but I can certainly speak about 'three
> > > days ago'. That's when my father's new laptop arrived.
> > >
> > > I'd just installed the flash player and was making sure YouTube worked,
> > > when I realised that I can't actually turn the sound up enough to hear
> > > it over the radio unless I install and run gnome-alsamixer and turn the
> > > 'Front' slider up...
> > >
> > > My MacBook Pro has the same issue, but that's _months_ old now so
> > > presumably it's more acceptable that it doesn't work right without
> > > gnome-alsamixer?
> > 
> > Great, so you personally experience one bug, and since you happen to
> > be on a technical board, you use that privilege to impose your own
> > little solution to your personal problems. Neat case of blatant power
> > abuse.
> 
> No, he encountered two bugs. We have had at least ten different reports
> of this type of bug to this list and -test-list. I have seen at least
> nine reports of this type of bug on fedoraforums. We have also had
> several manifestations reported to Bugzilla either as separate reports
> or comments on the initial bug I filed on this issue.
> 
> And that's _just people running F11 pre-releases who are sufficiently
> motivated to complain about it_. That's a very high level of complaint
> reporting within such a small group. Multiply it out to everyone who
> will use the final F11 release and what you have is an extremely large
> group of users.

I am pretty sure those 21 reports you are speaking of have the same or
maybe two or three different hardware models. Fixing the alsa db once
for all three of them is clearly more constructive than pushing in a
second volume control tool.

After all F11 ain't released yet. Fixes like adding more entries to
the db should certainly still be possible.

Lennart

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