On Wed, 2009-04-22 at 23:57 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2009-04-23 at 11:50 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > > Thank $deity. Very few people really want to fiddle with that many > > controls. That UI is clearly not a sane one. > > Of course they don't, but given the choice between "have to suffer > through poking all those controls in order to get audible sound / record > from an external device" and "not be able to get audible sound or record > from an external device", I think most people would prefer the former. > No-one's saying the previous situation is perfect, the point is that the > new system is missing functionality that is blatantly needed, which will > be experienced (and is *already* being experienced) by many many users > as a severe regression. > > I don't think anyone wants to lose the new volume control, or even for > it not to be the default. All I'm asking for is for *some* old-skool GUI > mixer to be installed alongside it by default so those who need to poke > those controls will be able to find a reasonably usable app to do it > with. Yes, please. It is necessary to have a gui alternative for the cases where the new, better, shinier thingy does not work. The thread seems to be looping: start: a: please keep the old gui mixer as an alternative b: just use alsamixer a: but the gui mixer was working, why do I have to use alsamixer? b: no it was not working (insert image of mixer with 23567 controls) a: but it is working, I start it and it shows the controls and it works b: no it does not (another image of a case which is complicated) a: but I need it, why do I have to use alsamixer now? b: you are mis-using things loop: a: no I'm not b: yes you are goto loop: for a while [degenerates into name calling and four letter words] goto start: It's all about layers of support. Adding a new, simpler layer of support does not mean you have to drop older, still functional layers, that take care of corner cases you state you are never going to support. -- Fernando -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
