On Wed, 2009-04-22 at 14:51 -0500, Callum Lerwick wrote: > > > Which is stupid. Deprecate first, then remove only after the new code > > > has gone through at least one cycle of wide release. > > > > Thanks, love you too. > > > > And ship two apps with that do the same thing in the desktop? What a > > great way to confuse things further. > > We package duplicates all the time. Doesn't mean it has to be installed > or visible or available by default. > > Lets rip out KDE, it just duplicates GNOME and confuses people! Well, we do have a couple of GUI mixers which still give you raw access - the xfce mixer is the most logical fit. But I'd really like to have it installed by default in this particular case. People will be happy at not having a GUI mixer with raw access to the hardware channels only if the shiny new abstracted mixer genuinely covers every case. As is very clear from this list, the bug report, test-list and fedoraforums, it's not even close. So I'm going to push very hard to have an alternate GUI mixer available for F11. The new mixer is obviously the Way Forward, but at the moment it's two steps forward for most people and a couple of dozen back for a significant minority. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
