Re: Fedora 11 nerfed my mixer

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On Thu, 23.04.09 10:01, David Woodhouse (dwmw2@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) wrote:

> 
> On Wed, 2009-04-22 at 20:38 -0400, Will Woods wrote:
> > On Wed, 2009-04-22 at 19:18 -0400, Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
> > 
> > > What do you mean? Having full control of your soundcard with all the
> > > sliders and stuff is useless?
> > > Not displaying everything 1-1 and hiding sliders is an improvement?
> > 
> > Holy hell yes:
> > http://people.redhat.com/alexl/files/why-alsa-sucks.png
> 
> As an argument for what PulseAudio is doing, that's a complete
> non-sequitur. 
> 
> The old gnome-volume-control had the facility to show/hide different
> mixer elements already -- if you think you _know_ which ones are useful
> to expose to the user and which aren't, we had the facility to do that
> _already_.
> 
> You don't have to do it in such a way that the user _can't_ get at the
> extra controls when our heuristics get it wrong (as they _often_ will).

First of all, these are no 'heuristics'.

Secondly, you _can_ get at the extra controls by dropping to alsamixer.

Lennart

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