On Thu, 23.04.09 10:01, David Woodhouse (dwmw2@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) wrote: > > On Wed, 2009-04-22 at 20:38 -0400, Will Woods wrote: > > On Wed, 2009-04-22 at 19:18 -0400, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > > > > > What do you mean? Having full control of your soundcard with all the > > > sliders and stuff is useless? > > > Not displaying everything 1-1 and hiding sliders is an improvement? > > > > Holy hell yes: > > http://people.redhat.com/alexl/files/why-alsa-sucks.png > > As an argument for what PulseAudio is doing, that's a complete > non-sequitur. > > The old gnome-volume-control had the facility to show/hide different > mixer elements already -- if you think you _know_ which ones are useful > to expose to the user and which aren't, we had the facility to do that > _already_. > > You don't have to do it in such a way that the user _can't_ get at the > extra controls when our heuristics get it wrong (as they _often_ will). First of all, these are no 'heuristics'. Secondly, you _can_ get at the extra controls by dropping to alsamixer. Lennart -- Lennart Poettering Red Hat, Inc. lennart [at] poettering [dot] net ICQ# 11060553 http://0pointer.net/lennart/ GnuPG 0x1A015CC4 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list