On Wed, 2009-04-22 at 18:53 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Wed, 2009-04-22 at 15:33 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > > Well, we do have a couple of GUI mixers which still give you raw access > > - the xfce mixer is the most logical fit. But I'd really like to have it > > installed by default in this particular case. People will be happy at > > not having a GUI mixer with raw access to the hardware channels only if > > the shiny new abstracted mixer genuinely covers every case. > > > > You can never cover _every case_, thats an illusion. Creating a usable > ui is to a large part deciding which cases are not worth supporting. You > just can't support everything that is possible by manually twiddling > with alsa internals, unless you just expose all the alsa guts 1-1 in the > ui. We've been there, and we don't want to go back to that. I know, but we are clearly way too far in the other direction at the point where the current mixer causes some people not to be able to get any audible sound at all, and prevents you from selecting an input channel. These are not bizarre corner cases. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
