On Wed, 2009-03-25 at 09:54 +0100, Matej Cepl wrote: > On 2009-03-23, 17:44 GMT, Adam Williamson wrote: > > And for Nokias - you can do limited > > sync very well with the gnokii plugin, and more sophisticated sync with > > the libsyncml plugin on some Nokias (some have broken SyncML > > implementations and just don't work right). The latest version of > > libsyncml which works with opensync 0.22 is 0.4.6, so we should revert > > to that. > > Thanks a lot for finally explaining me this whole mess. Two years > of my life working in Red Hat were spent trying to make > synchroznization to my Nokia 3110 Classic work without any > visible results (aside from putting myself on Cc: of > http://opensync.org/ticket/877 ;-)) and whole thing makes me > really crazy. Oh well. Yeah, it is something of a mess to figure out. I came at it just because I had a Windows Mobile phone and I wanted it to do something when I plugged it in :) So I mostly came at opensync via the synce angle, but after that, I got some other phones I had lying around to work too (I had a working sync group which synchronized my contacts on a Windows Mobile phone, a Nokia 6300, a Blackberry, Evolution and KDE 3 in a single operation - opensync can actually do some pretty awesome stuff once you get the damn thing to work). It looks like you had the same problem with syncml as I did - a Nokia phone with a bad implementation (my test device, a 6300, has a similar problem, it just doesn't seem to do SyncML properly no matter what settings you try). If gnokii supports your phone, then the gnokii opensync plugin - which is thankfully really easy to configure - will let you sync contacts and possibly calendar entries, but not tasks. (gnokii bypasses SyncML entirely and accesses things some other way). > One of the problems I see with opensync (aside from being totally > underpowered upstream and mostly ignored by everybody else than > SuSE and as I see now Mandriva, and especially ignored by most > Fedora folks) is that I don't see any effort at all on their side > to maintain stable branch. Any requests for fixing bugs are > stereotypically replied with "Wait until we finish 0.3* (now > 0.4*) branch". I have been waiting for two years. Oh well. Yeah, that's definitely the big problem, it causes all kinds of issues - like the KDE 4 thing. No-one wanted to write a plugin for KDE 4 / akonadi for opensync 0.22 because everyone knows it's 'obsolete', but no-one really wanted to write one for 0.4 either because it doesn't work, and even now that one's getting written for 0.3/0.4, it's not much use to anyone yet :\. Some fixes for 0.2 do get stuck into the SVN branch, but not very many. I think there was also a historic problem in that when 0.22 was still current, there was no really good interface for it (you only had msynctool the console client, or multisync-gui, which isn't very good). The KitchenSync from KDE 3 is actually an awesome GUI for opensync 0.22 which makes it really easy to set things up - that's why the Mandriva instructions are based around it - but it didn't really show up until quite a bit later, and even then, very few people seem to know about it for some reason. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list