On Tue, 24 Mar 2009, Chuck Anderson wrote:
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 03:31:09PM -0400, Tom Diehl wrote:
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009, Colin Walters wrote:
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Adam Williamson <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Quite a lot of people still don't want to use NetworkManager. It makes
little sense on a system which just sits there connected to a static IP
address 24/7.
I think it does because it provides a useful networking API for other
applications to consume. For example, answering the question "is
there an active network link" was effectively impossible for app
authors before.
Also, in my opinion on a well-managed network if you want a fixed IP
address, the right way to do it is MAC matching on the DHCP server,
not client configuration. And NetworkManager works well in such a
setup.
Which I guess is OK if you are not setting up the system with the dhcp server
AND the box you are setting up has X installed. Does NM have a command line
interface? Not that I have seen but I could have missed it.
NM supports static IP addresses configured in
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ethX, or you could enable the
keyfile plugin to use INI-like files to specify network configuration.
If you set ONBOOT=yes, you don't even need to interact with NM in any
way--it should just work. If you need to wait for the network before
continuing the system boot up, set NETWORKWAIT=yes in
/etc/sysconfig/network.
Well maybe I mis-understood then. I thought
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ethX was going away. If that is
incorrect then I do not understand what all of the complaining is
about.
So basically, the no-X argument isn't convincing to me, because you
can still do the basic stuff the old non-X way and it works.
However, there is an argument for not getting rid of the old network
scripts. The following are supported with network scripts but not NM
yet:
1. IPv6
2. bridges
3. interface aliases
But the current scripts in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ do this now
If you say they are not going away then rpm -e NM* and you have what you have
today when you do not install X. Works for me for the last 15 years or so.
I will admit I do like nm on my laptop but NOT on my servers.
Seriously, what am I missing?
Regards,
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