Hi all (interested in system config tools;-). We are working on System Configurations Tools Cleanup Project we need Fedora community opinion on this subject. Some s-c-* tools are now very outdated, some are replaced with better solution, some are only used in Anaconda etc. This is a short list of application that could be eliminated/replaced/enhanced in short/long term from Fedora. I've prepared it simple and clean to support further discussion, maybe some other tool is missing... * system-config-netboot - very outdated - replacements k12linux, cobbler * system-config-boot - at least it needs facelift and it's not very usable at all * system-config-display - xrandr should be used for resolution/dualhead configuration, Gnome & KDE have own xrandr based display configuration tool - generates xorg.conf - it's not needed anymore (only if someone needs more expert configuration) * system-config-network - replacement NetworkManager - missing IPv6? routing? * system-config-date - Gnome/KDE/XFCE have own datetime configuration tool/module, it's confusing than which one users should use - used in firstboot or anaconda??? * system-config-keyboard - used only in Anaconda, let it be standalone? - very simple tool, Gnome/KDE have better one * system-config-httpd - old GTK 1 application, should be ported to GTK 2 & PolicyKit * switchdesk and system-switch-tools? - it's possible to switch desktop in GDM/KDM - one tool for switching all alternatives? --- Expect more spam from us regarding cleanup project - we already have s-c-* tools reviews, so we will fill bugs soon (with some guidelines on list), nearly all s-c-* tools need to be ported to PolicyKit and so on ;-) Happy system config tools hacking System Config Cleanup Team -- Jaroslav Řezník <jreznik@xxxxxxxxxx> Associate Software Engineer - Base Operating Systems Brno Office: +420 532 294 275 Mobile: +420 731 455 332 Red Hat, Inc. http://cz.redhat.com/ -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list