2009/3/24 Jaroslav Reznik <jreznik@xxxxxxxxxx>: > Hi all (interested in system config tools;-). > We are working on System Configurations Tools Cleanup Project we need Fedora > community opinion on this subject. > > Some s-c-* tools are now very outdated, some are replaced with better > solution, some are only used in Anaconda etc. > > This is a short list of application that could be eliminated/replaced/enhanced > in short/long term from Fedora. > > I've prepared it simple and clean to support further discussion, maybe some > other tool is missing... > > * system-config-netboot > - very outdated > - replacements k12linux, cobbler could be removed. > > * system-config-boot > - at least it needs facelift and it's not very usable at all > > * system-config-display > - xrandr should be used for resolution/dualhead configuration, Gnome & KDE > have > own xrandr based display configuration tool > - generates xorg.conf - it's not needed anymore (only if someone needs > more expert configuration) or someone has issues with the automatic detection or wants to use nvidia binary drivers (which have a file overlay). or needs to switch driver to vesa if drivers are broken or or or or... i wouldnt call that expert stuff. more things you still need to do in some cases. > > * system-config-network > - replacement NetworkManager > - missing IPv6? routing? system-config-network has a text user interface. networkmanager is still lacking a proper way to be configured or used from a terminal as it is. still required e.g. for system troubleshooting and system rescue ... e.g. if X doesent start you cant enable or manage your interfaces properly. most endusers cant handle the textfiles and therefore wouldnt even be able to configure an interface manually to get the updates that makes things start again. (not like friends of mine didnt have those issues before) > > * system-config-date > - Gnome/KDE/XFCE have own datetime configuration tool/module, it's confusing > than > which one users should use > - used in firstboot or anaconda??? as long as those tool properly configure ntp... in the gnome date applet i cant find any ntp options. > > * system-config-keyboard > - used only in Anaconda, let it be standalone? > - very simple tool, Gnome/KDE have better one system wide config tool yet missing? > > * system-config-httpd > - old GTK 1 application, should be ported to GTK 2 & PolicyKit +1 > > * switchdesk and system-switch-tools? > - it's possible to switch desktop in GDM/KDM > - one tool for switching all alternatives? atleast the nonui script can still be useful to some degree. there is another one i have to add: system-config-cluster: doesent start since 2 years because of a pam error... maintainer doesent respond to bugs at all... is pretty buggy. but doesent have a replacement (ricci is in the true... but lucy still cant go in because of the zope problem since years now) > > --- > > Expect more spam from us regarding cleanup project - we already have s-c-* > tools reviews, so we will fill bugs soon (with some guidelines on list), > nearly all s-c-* tools need to be ported to PolicyKit and so on ;-) > > Happy system config tools hacking > System Config Cleanup Team > > -- > Jaroslav Řezník <jreznik@xxxxxxxxxx> > Associate Software Engineer - Base Operating Systems Brno > > Office: +420 532 294 275 > Mobile: +420 731 455 332 > Red Hat, Inc. http://cz.redhat.com/ > > -- > fedora-devel-list mailing list > fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list > -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
