Re: Please update your Feature Page ASAP

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Jesse Keating wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-03-04 at 14:56 -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
>> The SSSD is listed as not having 100% completion but we noted that we
>> fully expect to be feature-complete and testable by the Beta Freeze on
>> March 10th. Is this insufficient?
> 
> You were supposed to be in a testable state by the Feature freeze, not
> beta freeze.
> 
> 

Please refer to the following excerpt from the FESCo meeting on January
23rd, 2009. I draw your attention to the the portion of the conversation
that specifically stated that the SSSD Feature was accepted contingent
on its testability by the *beta date*:

(12:36:57 PM) notting: sgallagh: so, this is intended to replace the
current combination of nss_ldap, pam_krb5, pam_ccreds?
(12:37:00 PM) nirik: yeah, same here. ;)
(12:37:24 PM) jwb: and someone explain how the term "technology preview"
got into a Fedora feature page...
(12:37:39 PM) jwb: fedora itself is a technology preview...
(12:37:46 PM) jds2001: hehe i was wondering the same thing.
(12:37:49 PM) sgallagh: notting: short-term it will be complementary.
medium-/long-term, yes.
(12:38:10 PM) jds2001: so all this does is provide caching for offline auth?
(12:38:21 PM) jds2001: or am I missing something totally?
(12:38:37 PM) sgallagh: jds2001: It's also an integration point for
central HBAC management
(12:38:52 PM) notting: sgallagh: is the nss stuff client/server so that
we're not sucking $random_lib_of_the_day into process-space?
(12:39:10 PM) jwb: HBAC ==
(12:39:10 PM) jwb: ?
(12:39:17 PM) jwb: oh
(12:39:25 PM) sgallagh: notting: Yes, it's client-server.
(12:39:27 PM) sharkcz: host based access control?
(12:39:31 PM) sgallagh: jwb: Host-based access control
(12:39:34 PM) dgilmore: i like the idea of SSSD i wish it was more complete
(12:39:35 PM) jwb: thanks.
(12:39:43 PM) notting: sgallagh: well, that takes all the entertainment
out of nss_ldap bugs
(12:39:45 PM) sgallagh: SSSD is being developed concurrently with FreeIPA v2
(12:39:52 PM) dgilmore: i think its going to need lots of testing
(12:39:54 PM) jwb: sgallagh, what are your chances of getting this
testable by Beta?
(12:40:09 PM) sgallagh: jwb: I don't have the schedule handy, what's the
beta date?
(12:40:20 PM) jds2001: mid-march iirc
(12:40:26 PM) jwb: 3-10
(12:40:29 PM) jwb: March 10
(12:40:39 PM) jwb: that's when Beta freeze is
(12:40:45 PM) jwb: Feature freeze is a week before
(12:40:47 PM) f13: actually
(12:40:50 PM) f13: Feature freeze is March 3rd
(12:40:55 PM) jwb: i said that
(12:41:05 PM) f13: jwb: we were typing at the same time (:
(12:41:22 PM) jwb: i win. w00t
(12:41:55 PM) sharkcz: the idea is great and should close some gaps
(12:42:38 PM) jwb: i think it sounds really cool. i'm just wondering if
we should defer until we get a better feel for it being complete in time
(12:42:47 PM) f13: well.
(12:42:55 PM) f13: a feature can always be dropped if it's not ready in time
(12:42:58 PM) sgallagh: Sorry, please hold
(12:43:07 PM) notting: i'm +1 for the feature - we can drop it/not
publicize it if it's not ready
(12:43:10 PM) sgallagh: Conversing with my colleagues on that date
(12:43:19 PM) f13: it just needs a good contengency plan
(12:43:26 PM) nirik: yeah, +1 here, and if it's not ready we can try
again for f12.
(12:43:27 PM) sgallagh: f13: Contingency is: don't use it
(12:43:38 PM) sharkcz: +1 as notting
(12:43:42 PM) jds2001: +1 if it's that simple.
(12:43:48 PM) sgallagh: It's not replacing anything in this release
(12:43:51 PM) bpepple: +1
(12:43:55 PM) jds2001: drop it later if need be.
(12:43:56 PM) f13: sgallagh: sure, I haven't looked at the scope yet to
see if there would be any changes that would have to be rolled back.
(12:44:04 PM) jwb: +1
(12:44:08 PM) f13: (I'm not actually in FESCo, just lurking)
(12:44:24 PM) jds2001: f13: you're always welcome here :)
(12:44:27 PM) sgallagh: f13: Rollback should be limited to removing from
nssswitch.conf and pam config
(12:44:42 PM) f13: sgallagh: see, there /is/ a contingency plan!
(12:44:50 PM) sgallagh: I put that in the feature page, I thought
(12:44:57 PM) f13: you may have (:
(12:45:16 PM) sgallagh: Ah, not enough detail. Sorry
(12:45:50 PM) jds2001: i see six +1's, so we've approved the SSSD
feature, with the understanding that if it's not testable by beta, we'll
drop it.


Again, please note the last entry here.

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