Ralf Corsepius wrote: > Your postings speak a different language. 90% of your postings are > demonstrations of your lack of understanding them and mere propaganda > aiming at promoting cmake. I've had to work a lot with the autotools, which gave me a thorough understanding of how badly designed they are. For example, I've seen a lot of projects using some stock autotools template which tests for a lot of stuff (including standard functions such as memcpy), then not actually using the results of those tests. Now maybe those projects' maintainers do not understand the autotools, but that just proves my point that they are too hard to use. I also had a lot of problems with incompatibility between versions. "Just ship the file generated with the version you use and backwards incompatibility won't matter" is not a solution: it doesn't help the maintainer when he/she upgrades his/her system and it doesn't help you when you need to modify something in the .ac/.am files (the actual source code - often a one-line change there corresponds to a lot of changes in the generated files, so it's hard to do those changes in the generated files by hand - been there, done that) (and modifying is kinda the point of Free Software!). Trust me, I have my reasons to hate the autotools! I'm not disparaging the autotools to promote a particular alternative, it's the opposite: the main reason I'm promoting that particular alternative is that it's the one which has the best chances to displace the broken autotools. And if everyone uses their own custom solutions, that's going to make things really messy to package, that's why I'm promoting only one solution. I'm not paid by Kitware to promote their project or anything like that. ;-) Kevin Kofler -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list