Colin Walters wrote: > On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 6:25 PM, seth vidal <skvidal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> what has upstream gnome said about using other lm to start gnome? > > My guess is that most of them would probably agree it's worth fixing > bugs involved in interacting with kdm. But hostility to adding more > to that set is likely to increase fast. > > Anyways how about this proposal as something we could likely achieve > rough consensus on: Integrating any package which requires nontrivial > changes in affected software[1] requires a Feature page, and that > feature requires the rough consensus of the maintainers of the > affected software. > > [1] I don't mean Requires: but how the software works at runtime > I'm both +1 and -1 on this. Reading it literally I think I could agree with it. However, if you expect it to be able to keep new display managers out of Fedora then there's too much subtext that I don't agree with. In other words, if I get mydm into Fedora and GNOME programs won't run once I've logged in via it, they don't technically need to be adapted so a literal reading could say that this doesn't apply. OTOH, if it turns out that GNOME programs don't work because they hardcode a requirement on a specific gnome program when another program can and does provide that interface in mydesktop, then fixing the GNOME programs could certainly be a Feature worth talking about. Linux isn't about choice; but choice can be a feature. And I think that it's a feature that Fedora currently and in the past has promoted. We have KDE and xfce and lxde now. We have a multiplicity of possible spins. We have yum and apt and smart. If choice is not a feature that we want to be a part of our future, then it has to be put to the Board and the other contributors to decide if we will be a stronger community with more focus but less diversity. If it is a feature we want, then interoperability of login manager and desktop environments is something that falls under that goal -- as sticky as it may be to work on the problem. -Toshio
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