Jesse Keating wrote: > That's the kind of elitist crap attitude I hate to see in Fedora. > > I agree that broadband should be a requirement for using /rawhide/ where > the churn is expected to be great, however I refuse to agree that we > should treat our /stable/ releases in the same way. Guess what, people like me are using Fedora *because* of its many updates. That's its niche. If we start pushing only minimal updates, what distinguishes us from Ubuntu? They also release every 6 months. Having all distros work the same way means we're all forced to use the "common denominator" even if it doesn't fit our needs at all. IMHO people with slow Internet connections are served much better by CentOS: few updates (only security updates and the occasional bugfix) and no need to upgrade to a new release (which they have to buy on media, most likely) at least once a year. We can try to serve those people with features like Presto (and IMHO it should have a much higher priority, as it indeed lowers the bar for the bandwidth requirements and it'll also help mirrors and speed up downloads for everyone) and LZMA payloads, but dropping one of Fedora's main distinguishing features just to accomodate low-bandwidth users is really throwing the baby out with the bathwater! Kevin Kofler -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list