On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 05:32:43PM +0100, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: > Paul W. Frields wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 01, 2009 at 01:26:39PM -0500, Brian Pepple wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> The top ten FAS account holders who have completed reviewing "Package >>> review" components on bugzilla for the year ending December 31st, 2008 >>> were Parag AN(पराग), Jason Tibbitts, Mamoru Tasaka, Manuel Wolfshant, >>> Kevin Fenzi, Jon Ciesla, Brian Pepple, Dan Horák, Patrice Dumas, and >>> Marek Mahut. Below is the number of completed package reviews done >>> during 2008. >> >> I'd like to arrange for some sort of reward for the top 10 reviewers. > > Good idea! I'm #11 ;-) We could just as easily make this 5, or 15. The number isn't that important to me personally, and the community can help decide the cutoff point. >> We could turn that into an annual event. >> >> There was a previous attempt at a "Fedora Award," but it was based on >> completely subjective measures whereas this reward would be (1) less >> hoopla involved, and (2) based on the completely objective measure of >> package reviews, which are both sorely needed in the project and >> obviously well-connected to our mission of advancing free software -- >> in this case, by getting more of it included in the distribution. >> > > Given the overall sentiment the last time; How are you going to award > whomever is doing whatever in whichever area doesn't have this kind of > statistics? I'm afraid the ones that had something to complain about > with the Fedora Award will find something to complain about this time. There was a lot more to complain about with that award being (1) decided out of public view, (2) not based on objective criteria, and (3) publicly trumpeted as an "award" and not a "reward." I see this as more of a bounty or a thank-you, not an award that promotes specific people as somehow having more value to the project than others. Any team in Fedora is free to find objective metrics and show achievement based on those metrics. And I'd be open to finding a way to thank people based on their objective achievements. > Why not combine whatever statistics we can pull from wherever, have > these people put their ranking on their personal Wiki page -if they even > want to-, and elect who's getting the Fedora Award? We could arrange for > the winners in YearN to not be eligible for YearN+1, too. Elections devalue the point of the reward -- that it's based on an objective measure and not biased by popularity, group awareness, or any number of other social considerations. Those latter considerations were some of the biggest complaints about having awards bestowed on specific people -- as opposed to a reward for measurable work completed. I think it's worthwhile to recognize people who are measurably contributing to the fulfillment of our mission, in this case by getting more software included in Fedora with a token reward. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug
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