> Patrice Dumas wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I am leaving fedora (though not EPEL) > > Thanks for all the good work you've done the past years, it was always a > pleasure to work with you, so thank you and good bye. > > Below I'll respond to one point of your farewell mail, this is in no way > meant > to convince you to come back, the purpose of my remarks is to discuss > possibilities for those who remain behind to hopefully do better at your > use > cases :) > >> My use case is old non desktop stuff, fluxbox, xdm, vim, xterms, >> mutt, irssi, firefox, latex/texinfo, xfig, xpdf, numerical models, >> openoffice (because I have to). Fedora is unsuitable for me as a user >> since quite a long time, too much regressions, lack of interest for >> integrating what I use (xdm, no vfs daemon...) > > As someone who is now a day maintaining xfig and ImageMagick (not listed > but > sort of fits in the list), let me chime in here. I think the biggest issue > with > quite a lot of these, is that they are maintained by @redhat.com people > (yes > I'm @redhat.com now too). The problem is that most of these packages as > part of > former Fedora Core, got these maintainers because someone had to do it, > not > because they care a whole lot about the package. Those maintainers have > more > packages to maintain / other work to do and given that these packages do > not > have a lot of users, any issues with them will get low priority if any at > all. > > So what can we do to make this better? Simple become a co-maintainer and > fix > any issues yourself. That is how I did things with xfig and ImageMagick > when I > got fed up with ping-ing in bugzilla (officially I'm still a co-maintainer > of > both, but in practice I seem to be the maintainer). > > So I hereby call on everyone who care about these older tools: if it > itches > scratch. I know that many of you have probably submitted bugs with > patches. > That is not going to work when a package maintainer is overworked. The > solution > in my experience is to become a co-maintainer and do any fixes yourself. > > ### > > Talking about Patrice leaving and packages of older software, this leaves > (amongst others) lesstif orphaned. As I've co-maintained it for a while > and I > believe that offering the possibility to run old (FREE) motif apps is > important, I will pick it up (call me crazy). But I could really use some > help > here, upstream lesstif is dead and it could really use some loving. So any > volunteers? You're crazy. :) I've applied to co-maintain, I need liesstif for ddd. > Regards, > > Hans > > -- > fedora-devel-list mailing list > fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list > -- in your fear, speak only peace in your fear, seek only love -d. bowie -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
